1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,840 This programme contains very strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,960 SIREN BLARES 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,120 This is Felix Owusu, reporting live. 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,720 I am at the Stop Climate Genocide protest in Brighton 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,720 for a profile on SCG's founder, Marcus Calderwood. 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,360 SIREN CONTINUES, LOUD CHATTER 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,440 This is a final warning. Time is running out! 8 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,160 These offices belong to a company 9 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,200 whose cheap ultra-processed food is destroying the planet. 10 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,240 Stop Climate Genocide! 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Who do you think you are, you selfish prick?! 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 You're disrupting people's lives, mate! 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Stop Climate Genocide! And as for you lot, don't just stand there, 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,720 you two-tier muppets! Arrest them! What's wrong with ya? 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,080 What about the ambulances, you block?! Huh? 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,040 The lives that you're ruining? I will not apologise 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,320 for the inconvenience caused to a privileged few! 18 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:14,920 SHOUTING 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,720 What are you nicking me for? Him! He's the one! 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,800 SIREN BLARES 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Marcus Calderwood, activist and author, 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,720 is about to be arrested for the 21st time. 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,440 SIREN BLARES 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,840 CHANTING: Stop Climate Genocide! Stop Climate Genocide! 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Stop Climate Genocide! Stop Climate Genocide... 26 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 CHANTING AND SIRENS FADE 27 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,680 HORN HONKS 28 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,240 ENGINE REVS UP 29 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,200 HE PANTS 30 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,400 CAR DRIVES AWAY 31 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,080 HE SCREAMS IN PAIN 32 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,080 BIRDSONG 33 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,520 CAR APPROACHES 34 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,480 Marcus? Marcus? 35 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Stay with us, Marcus. The air ambulance is on its way. 36 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,160 WEAKLY: I know who... Just stay calm. 37 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,720 SLURRED: I know who did it. 38 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,040 The driver. 39 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,600 It was a police officer. 40 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Goldfinches? Yeah, and there was practically a flock at one point, 41 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,720 but now they've stopped coming. 42 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,120 And this has increased your anxiety levels? I know. I know! I know. 43 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,600 But I can't help feeling like it's something I've done. 44 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920 I was reading that garden bird numbers 45 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 have been greatly reduced by avian flu. Oh? 46 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,680 Do you think it's that? 47 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Well, it seems more plausible than that they held a mass meeting 48 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,920 and agreed to boycott Sam Malik's garden. OK. 49 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Good. Well, that's reassuring to know. 50 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,480 They're probably all just dead. 51 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,920 How is work, Sam? 52 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Yeah, well, you know. Work's work - 53 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,680 cuts, underfunding, administrative chaos, court backlogs. 54 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,280 I mean, it's all very well me trying to put the scum back on the streets, 55 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:06,760 but the scum are mainly on remand, waiting five years for a court date. 56 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,600 And what about sedative use? 57 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Oh, yeah, no, I was going to chat to you about that. 58 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,360 No, I only use them in real emergencies. 59 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,240 But I have misplaced the last strip you gave me, so... 60 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,360 HE GROANS Know what I really hate? 61 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Mm-hm - bagpipes, low winter sun, 62 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,200 two-factor verification codes... 63 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,960 And doctors who charge 150 an hour 64 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 who suddenly decide to ration the meds. Isn't that part of their job? 65 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,840 Do you know what I really don't need right now, Claudia? 66 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:40,360 Er, the voice of reason? 67 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,000 I did my gratification exercises, I used the prompt-pay app, 68 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,080 just give me the f...ing benzos! 69 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Oh, my God, he's died! 70 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,360 Who has? That climate guy from the hit-and-run, Marcus Calderwood. 71 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 But I thought they said that he was... Died in surgery apparently. 72 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Ruptured spleen. 73 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Oh, that's awful! 74 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,040 I mean, I didn't always agree with their tactics, but... 75 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,640 This'll break the internet for good. 76 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Right, no rest for the wicked. I'm off to court... 77 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Tenner says it's cancelled. You're on. 78 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,800 CHANTING, DRUMBEAT 79 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,040 REPORTER: "No flowers, only rage" is the cry 80 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,920 from climate change activists and other protestors. 81 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,560 It was just outside Lewes nearly two days ago 82 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,960 that the acclaimed author and founder of Stop Climate Genocide 83 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,720 was struck by a vehicle and fatally injured. 84 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 But after two days and still no arrest, 85 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 there is considerable internet speculation 86 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,600 over what exactly happened to this prominent activist. 87 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Grace Eze? Hi. Thank you so much for coming. 88 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,840 I wasn't sure who to contact. 89 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,040 I read your piece on Marcus and I knew you were friends. 90 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Thank you for everything you did to try and help Marcus. 91 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,480 You said you had something you wanted to tell me in person? 92 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,440 The police - they said they're keeping an open mind 93 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,760 and hadn't made any arrests. Right. 94 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,280 But they know who did it. 95 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Marcus knew who it was and he told me. And I told them. 96 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Who did you tell? 97 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,920 The police officer at the scene - Nicky Taylor. 98 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,920 Who did Marcus say did it? 99 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,080 PHONE RINGS 100 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Felix? 101 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Wait. Go again. 102 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Who did Marcus say this to? 103 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 And they are sure about this? Quite sure. 104 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,400 And you let me go to the first press conference 105 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 and say we had no suspects? Well, we didn't then. 106 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,840 If I'm going to go to the press, 107 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 I have to have accurate information at my fingertips, Helen. 108 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,120 We need this officer in a cell before we face the press again. 109 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,160 LINE RINGS WOMAN ON PHONE: Yes, sir? 110 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,360 Get PC Nicholas Taylor. 111 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Right, will do. 112 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,560 A paramedic on the scene said she told you 113 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,320 that Marcus Calderwood directly named a police officer 114 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,240 from this station as the driver that struck him. 115 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Are you saying that she's lying? It was very noisy, sir. 116 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,000 There was a lot going on. 117 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,120 If she said it, I certainly didn't understand it. 118 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Obviously, he's Officer X for the press. 119 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,000 I'm going to declare this a critical incident now. 120 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,720 We'll need a Gold group 121 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,360 and somebody from a neighbouring force to run the investigative side. 122 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,320 We'll also need your phone, PC Taylor. 123 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,120 Am I suspended? No. 124 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Not yet. 125 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Please tell me they bloody found him. 126 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Can confirm Officer X is not at the property. 127 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,000 Vehicle is also missing. 128 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Neighbour said it was driven away yesterday morning 129 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,880 by the suspect's partner, Ms Sandra Vodanovic. 130 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,720 They took my phone. 131 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,320 But they haven't suspended you? 132 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Yet. 133 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,200 It was noisy. You didn't hear her say it. 134 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:26,440 You think anyone's going to believe me over her? 135 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 OK, fair play - when it comes to protected characteristics, 136 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,400 the odds aren't in your favour. 137 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,400 But it doesn't matter what they believe. 138 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Matters what they can prove. 139 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,560 Where do you think he's gone? Haven't a scooby, mate. 140 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:43,480 There'll be a bird involved somewhere along the way, though. 141 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,960 Don't look so worried, Nicky Boy. 142 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 You're not the one who has to prove anything here, remember? 143 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Welcome, folks. 144 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,200 This Gold group includes Leila Hassoun-Kenny from the CPS, 145 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,760 representatives of our Media and Public Engagement Unit, 146 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,200 community liaison officers to deal with any hate-related issues, 147 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,600 and I'd like to introduce DI Miles Southgate 148 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,240 from Hampshire and the New Forest, 149 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,800 who we've brought in given the sensitive nature of the case. 150 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,320 He's the SIO. 151 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,320 And DS Iain Packham, also from my force. 152 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,000 So, here's where we are. 153 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,360 We can confirm the identity of Officer X as PC Justin Mitchell. 154 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,680 Currently, no mobile evidence putting PC Mitchell at the scene. 155 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,760 No helpful dashcam has come forward either. 156 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,200 The disappearance of the bike and the suspect's vehicle 157 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,240 means we don't have meaningful forensics yet. 158 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,960 Finding one or preferably both of those is our number one priority. 159 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Mmm, and there is one important update. 160 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,640 We have found CCTV footage of PC Mitchell's Cayenne 161 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,000 boarding a ferry at Portsmouth yesterday morning, 162 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,920 which DS Packham can show you. 163 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Here it is, boarding a ferry in Portsmouth to Calais 164 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,320 at 10.30am, on the morning of 9th of October. 165 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,880 The neighbour witnessed it driving away 166 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,520 and she also confirmed that she had seen damage to the vehicle. 167 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,600 Is Sandra Vodanovic still driving the vehicle? Yes. 168 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,120 So he could be concealed inside, 169 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,840 as could all the evidence removed from the crash site. 170 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Yeah, our thoughts exactly. 171 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,440 If there's sufficient evidence, 172 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,240 anyone assisting an offender will face charges. 173 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,960 Of course. And we're still checking PC Taylor's phone. 174 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 I would suggest naming PC Mitchell very... 175 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Obviously, the involvement of Owusu... 176 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 ..Sorry, Helen. Just to say that there will be an obvious 177 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,880 anti-police bias among much of the media, especially Felix Owusu. 178 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,360 So, we have to be really proactive in ensuring that 179 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,680 that does not become the dominant narrative. 180 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,560 WOMAN: All these climate activists are just spoiled little babies. 181 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,280 MAN: Those climate protesters are a disgrace. 182 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Who's paying the police costs?! 183 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,520 WOMAN: Marcus was an inspiration 184 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,920 to everybody who cares about the planet... 185 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,280 MAN: The police can't even stop shoplifting, 186 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 let alone catch a murderer... WOMAN: What's wrong with people, 187 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,200 making fun of a guy who's just been murdered? 188 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,600 MAN: I don't believe what anybody says about anything any more. 189 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,760 SAM SIGHS This used to be a country. 190 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,520 How long's he been on remand for now? Oh, I don't know. 191 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,320 I've lost count, but it's definitely a record, poor guy. 192 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,080 Did you hear Marcus Calderwood was the grandson of Lady Calderwood? 193 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,920 It's not a crime to be posh, Sam. 194 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Anyway, some guy came in asking for you. Who? 195 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,000 I don't know. He wouldn't give me his name, 196 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 wouldn't give me any details, insisted he'd only speak to you. 197 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Oh, God, I hate that. 198 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Hopefully, he'll get hit by a truck or something. 199 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Yeah. Yeah, who needs clients, eh? 200 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Coffee? Yes, yes. 201 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 CHATTER 202 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,720 When are you going to bring someone in? 203 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 How long is it going to take for you to question someone? 204 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Good morning, everyone. 205 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,720 I shall read a statement, and because of the complex 206 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,000 and fast-moving nature of this... GROANS 207 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,960 I know, but it is... 208 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,000 But it is, and owing to that fact, 209 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 we will not be taking any questions today. 210 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,440 GROANS 211 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,440 We are aware of rumours circulating online 212 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,480 about the involvement of a serving police officer 213 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,240 in the hit-and-run incident on Tuesday 214 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,200 which tragically took the life of Marcus Calderwood. 215 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 We will be referring to this officer as Officer X. 216 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Obviously, I know the identity of Officer X, 217 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,440 as do many within Stop Climate Genocide. 218 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,880 Which is why we're asking for your cooperation 219 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,720 in not naming them, as it could impact on the investigation. 220 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,600 It's just a matter of time. 221 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,120 When will you reveal the name? 222 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,600 Thanks, Felix. I think you probably heard Helen say, "No questions." 223 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Why should anybody trust anything you tell us? 224 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,560 I can confirm that this has been designated a critical incident 225 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,560 and a Gold group has been established, including 226 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,560 representatives of the community, as well as hate-monitoring groups. 227 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Thank you very much. 228 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,480 No gentle truck to save you, I'm afraid. 229 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,520 He's back. Oh, God! 230 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,000 What's his name? Well, he won't tell me. 231 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 But polite and wearing a nice perfume. 232 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Vetiver, I think. Send him through. 233 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,200 HE GROANS 234 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,880 Come on through. 235 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,760 Thank you. 236 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Sorry, I didn't catch your name. Oh, it's Claudia. 237 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Claudia, thank you. 238 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Hello. 239 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,840 You don't remember me, do you? 240 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,040 I'm afraid not, but if it's any consolation, 241 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,320 I'm...terrible with names and faces. 242 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,800 Have we met before? Erm, yeah. 243 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Sort of. 244 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Oh, hello. 245 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,800 So... 246 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 A couple of years back, there was a drugs case. 247 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Some geezer - Tony O'Brien, to be precise - went to Amsterdam, 248 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,360 took possession of a ton of pills, mailed them to himself in Hastings, 249 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,720 went to collect them, went home and opened them up. 250 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Sounds like a tricky one for the defence. 251 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,960 Well, you'd think so, wouldn't you? 252 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,600 But can you believe he got off? 253 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Juries, eh? 254 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Juries, yeah. Mm-hm. 255 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,280 And a solicitor advocate who was the most annoyingly persistent 256 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,040 little twat you could possibly meet. 257 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Jury would have sent him down 100% without this fella. 258 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,840 I do an awful lot of such cases, so you'll excuse me 259 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,200 if I don't recall your particular role in this... 260 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,760 I was the police officer who banged his fist 261 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,400 and mouthed, "You absolute cunt!" at you. 262 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Doesn't narrow it down, I'm afraid. 263 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,640 HE SCOFFS I bet. 264 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,920 But if it's any consolation, Tony O'Brien just got five years 265 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,280 for a very similar charge, so... I'm not here for consolation. 266 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:32,560 That day, I thought, "If I ever need a brief, I'm going to Sam Malik." 267 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,520 So, you need a solicitor now? 268 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Marcus Calderwood identified me before he died 269 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 as the driver in the hit-and-run. 270 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,280 I'm Officer X. 271 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,680 Nicky's in with the Gestapo, lads. 272 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Hope you've all done the right thing. 273 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 What's he like, then, this Southgate? 274 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,240 Never forgiven him for not playing Grealish. 275 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,640 LAUGHTER Got management twat all over him. 276 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,800 Yeah, my mate in Hampshire says he's just a bit weird. 277 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Yeah? I stopped believing you the minute you said, "My mate." 278 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,280 LAUGHTER Anyway, Nicky's staunch. 279 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,720 He'll be fine. 280 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,720 This was among recently deleted photos from your phone, PC Taylor. 281 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Can you identify the people? 282 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,000 That's me, obviously. 283 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Juzzer... Justin Mitchell. Please use full names. 284 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Justin Mitchell. 285 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,280 Kyle Jones. Sorry, don't know his middle name. 286 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,320 And Robert Hyndley. 287 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,360 What do the four fingers mean? 288 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,480 I don't know. Probably the number of goals Palace conceded or something. 289 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Is it a reference to D4? What's D4? 290 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,280 We're from Hampshire, not Hong Kong, Nick. 291 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,560 There's officers from our force know officers from your force - 292 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,040 some who've even served in both. Mind-blowing, I know. 293 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,840 We know D4's the name of your group chat. 294 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Have you wiped it already? Have I what? 295 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,840 OK, so you either think we were born yesterday or you actually were. 296 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,760 You'll have had a panic code or a symbol 297 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,960 to wipe incriminating conversations. What was it? 298 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,920 HE SCOFFS 299 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,320 I think I'll have my Federation Rep now. 300 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,520 Why were you trying to protect Justin, PC Taylor? 301 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,680 Who else is going to protect us? 302 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,360 I mean, we've got the press picking holes in every single thing we do, 303 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,320 saying we're too woke, saying we're not woke enough, 304 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,800 saying we don't care about ordinary crimes. 305 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Also, who cares if we're in hospital cos some kid's pulled a machete 306 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,920 that we can't search him for? 307 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,960 Seriously, mate, who's got OUR backs? 308 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,240 I didn't warn Justin. 309 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,520 That's the truth. 310 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,760 PHONE BUZZES 311 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Well, let's see what Justin has to say on the matter. 312 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,880 They've found him? 313 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Yeah. Looks like he's seen sense and handed himself in 314 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,320 to a local solicitor. 315 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,920 RECORDER TURNS OFF 316 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,880 Word to the wise, Nick? 317 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,880 I don't disagree with some of the stuff you were saying there, 318 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,240 as it goes. 319 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,400 But don't ever call one of us "mate" in an interview. 320 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,800 It's "sir" or "boss". 321 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,320 Got it? 322 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,360 Yes... 323 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,240 ..boss. Fuck about, find out. 324 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Yeah, Leila? We've found him. 325 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,680 That's great news. 326 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,640 I'll just need to bring my boss up to speed on everything. 327 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Potentially, we have three charging decisions - 328 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,280 PCs Mitchell and Taylor, plus a Ms Sandra Vodanovic. 329 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,360 Who's she? Mitchell's partner. 330 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,280 The neighbour apparently saw her driving the vehicle 331 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,600 away from the property shortly after the discovery of the body. 332 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,960 OK, she's obviously going to have to face the music for that. Mm-hm. 333 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,280 They've drafted in an SIO from Hampshire and the New Forest 334 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,080 to oversee the investigation. 335 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Guess they'll need him for any interviews, as well, 336 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,520 in the circumstances. Or her. 337 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,360 Is it a her? No, it's a him. 338 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,600 SAM: Ah, hello! 339 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Where is he? 340 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Oh, he left. 341 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,840 What? Yeah. Well, he knows his onions, obviously. 342 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,920 Said you'd need to conduct an interview with another force. 343 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Yeah. I'm the other force. Oh. 344 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Never met or worked with PC Mitchell. 345 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,440 Right, well, he said he'd rather not be waiting in a cell all night 346 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,760 and that he'll be at the station with me tomorrow morning at 9am. 347 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Right. Anything else? Yeah, yeah. He said he didn't do it. 348 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,840 Why did Marcus Calderwood say he did, then? I don't know. 349 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,560 PC Mitchell doesn't know either. 350 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,840 Are you going to represent him, then? 351 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Who's the CPS lawyer? Leila Hassoun-Kenny. 352 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Ha! 353 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,840 HE CHUCKLES 354 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,400 PC Mitchell will contact me again tomorrow morning. 355 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,240 I'll meet him and bring him to the station. 356 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,080 But beyond that, I can't say until I've had a bit more... 357 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,320 A bit more time with him. 358 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:11,280 Right, OK. Thank you. 359 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,200 What's with the "Ha!" about Leila Hassoun-Kenny? 360 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Dad is a Saddam-era Iraqi exile - Communist Party aristocracy - 361 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,920 and mum is Dame Harriet Kenny - 362 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,360 worst kind of smug, post-modern academic. 363 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,000 OK, well, putting the sins of the mother aside, 364 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,040 I don't think we should touch this. 365 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,400 Why? Er, a cop who smashed his car 366 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,240 into a guy trying to save the planet? 367 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,400 ALLEGEDLY smashed his car. And he's still entitled to a defence. 368 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Mm-hm. Good luck trying to find one. 369 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,760 HE SIGHS 370 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Dad, you can't! Why? 371 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,200 It's Marcus Calderwood versus, like, a cop. 372 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,040 And you think I'd, like, be on the wrong side of history or something? 373 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Yeah, basically. Well, I've seen the right side of history, 374 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,880 and it's full of emoji-brained idiots... All right... 375 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Wait, wait, wait! Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hang on, no. Wait, wait, wait. 376 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,000 So, you don't think I should do it? No... No. Wait. Wait. 377 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,320 Forget... Forget spurious sides of history, OK, 378 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,360 and just think fair trial. 379 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,480 Because I don't think you'd be able to cope, Dad. 380 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,480 What? Yeah, OK... What?! Move over. 381 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320 I won't be able to cope? You'll go online, you'll get enraged. 382 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,360 And fair play to you, 383 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,800 you don't even have a proper side in the culture war 384 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960 because you look down on everybody... I've got a side, right? 385 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,720 Shall I tell you my side? Don't embarrass yourself... 386 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Reason, logic and basic morality! 387 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,960 I warned you you'd sound stupid. Oh, so morality's stupid now, is it? 388 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,200 Once you've succeeded in winding yourself up, you'll sit there 389 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,960 arguing with imaginary adversaries and pickle in your own cortisol. 390 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,120 And, you know, you're bound to lose. 391 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,520 Like anybody's going to believe the word of a cop these days. 392 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,120 But that cop chose me. And that... 393 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,080 That should count for something. 394 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Honestly, Dad, I just think it might be too much. 395 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Yo! Get off Tinder, bitch, and buy me a drink! 396 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,640 SHE LAUGHS 397 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320 Excuse me, can I get a drink? WAITER: One second! 398 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,320 Although it is way past time you lodged that loser Alex. 399 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,000 He said to say hi. Hmm! I'm sure he said more than that. 400 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,240 But whatever. Put the phone down, relax. School bell went ages ago. 401 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,120 Work's full-on at the moment. I've got a massive caseload. 402 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,240 You're a bloody workaholic. 403 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,400 Well, if you mean I have a high-pressure, full-time job... 404 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,520 Don't you ever stop to think 405 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,120 that there are more important things in life than...work? 406 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,200 Most people don't only do it for a laugh. 407 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,240 OK, look, let's not start. I didn't. Mmm? 408 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,920 You spoken to Mum recently? Not in the last few days. 409 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560 Well, she's off to Madrid if the knee holds out. Why? 410 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Invited by the Minister for Equality to get some medal for services 411 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,280 for discourse theory. She never told me that. 412 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,160 Try answering the phone. 413 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,720 But actually, it's a real drag 414 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,120 because she was supposed to be looking after 415 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,240 Nestor and Frida that weekend. Where are you going? 416 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Barcelona. I really need some me-time. 417 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Oh, you have other kinds of time? THEY CHUCKLE 418 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,160 Laughing my fucking arse off. 419 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,360 So, I was going to ask... 420 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,800 Oh, Tam, I don't know... ..if you could have 'em... 421 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,200 It's just two days, and you love the kids. 422 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Look... Well, Frida anyway. 423 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,520 I mean, nobody loves Nestor, but he was... 424 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280 He was never this bad before the weed. 425 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Please, babe, it's really important to me. 426 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,400 It's Mattie Service-Station's 50th and everybody is going. 427 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,120 I'll have to check the dates. You're a superhero. 428 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,920 So, how IS work? 429 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Well, I'm on the Marcus Calderwood case. 430 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Who? The climate change guy! The one in the hit-and-run. 431 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,600 Never heard of him. He wrote Tipping Point and Tears In The Rain? 432 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,040 Student shit. Well, it's a bit more than that, actually. 433 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,960 It was... Gin Martini. 434 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960 And please ensure that the glass is properly frozen 435 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,440 or it's going straight back. Don't look at me like that 436 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,120 when you're charging me over a tenner for it! 437 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,760 And if you gob in it now, I will know. 438 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,360 And my sister here, she's a top lawyer, 439 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:17,000 and she'll shut this place down faster than a new Covid variant. 440 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Only half-sister, thankfully. 441 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,600 Same again, the Albarino. Thanks. 442 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,360 This...is for Frida's birthday. 443 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,120 What is it? T-shirt. 444 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,400 Did you keep the receipt? 445 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,720 HE SIGHS 446 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,680 HE GROANS 447 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,600 RADIO NEWS PIPS 448 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,080 NEWSREADER: The East Sussex Crown Prosecution Service 449 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,640 has issued a statement on the wave of internet speculation 450 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,200 concerning the identity of Police Officer X. 451 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,120 Stop Climate Genocide has challenged the police 452 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:17,840 to name Officer X within 24 hours or they will. 453 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,320 So, we've been looking at all the points of contact 454 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,720 between Justin and Marcus. OK. Great. 455 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Justin really did not like the SCG. He made that quite obvious. 456 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,120 Why? I mean, apart from the obvious. 457 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,160 Well... So, people aren't being exactly chatty, 458 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,800 but it does seem that he attended a fatal road incident 459 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720 and blamed it all on SCG for disrupting the traffic. 460 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,280 And how did that extend to Calderwood personally? 461 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,760 It didn't at first. 462 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 His first interaction with SCG was at another protest, 463 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560 where he was accused of being heavy-handed in his restraint 464 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,600 during an arrest. Any consequences? Nothing. 465 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,480 But then, the very first meeting between them 466 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520 was after he attended a neighbour dispute at Marcus's property. 467 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,240 OK, and what happened there? Between Marcus and Justin, I mean. 468 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Marcus made a complaint that Justin was hostile towards him 469 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,840 and referenced the SCG in a way that was both negative 470 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 and irrelevant to the issue. 471 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Right, any bodycam? Guess what? 472 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,520 Switched off. Mm-hm. Ah, but here's the really strange one, though. 473 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Marcus made a complaint against Justin 474 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880 on at least one further occasion. For what? 475 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Stopped him on his bike unreasonably. 476 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040 And what happened with that complaint? 477 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Nothing again, as far as I can see. 478 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,880 Papers are going to have fun with this. Mm-hm. 479 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Can you send me the details? 480 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Well, I'm trying to dig out the full file, but... 481 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,120 ..guess what? 482 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,440 Having trouble locating it? 483 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Keep looking. 484 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,160 HE SIGHS 485 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,160 Blimey! Don't take this the wrong way, but you look like shit, mate. 486 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,480 Yeah, I didn't sleep so well last night. 487 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,600 Oh. Want a coffee? No. 488 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Sleep's important. You've got to sleep. 489 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,000 So they say, all the time, everywhere. 490 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Diabetes, heart disease - 491 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,400 you name it, poor sleep will make it worse. 492 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960 Yeah. Yeah, I know. It keeps me up at night. 493 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280 I'm one of those people - head hits the pillow and...boom! 494 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920 I'm out for the next eight hours, even when I've got shit on my mind. 495 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,520 I'd say, "Lucky you", 496 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,720 but given the shit that's probably on your mind right now... 497 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,360 No, I slept fine. 498 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120 I'm not guilty and we'll show that. 499 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,360 Well, I wasn't able to sleep on it, so I gave your case some thought. 500 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720 A lot of people say I shouldn't take it on. 501 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Why not? 502 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Considering retirement. What?! You're not nearly old enough. 503 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Early retirement - health grounds. 504 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,800 What, a bit of insomnia? 505 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,200 It's linked to other things. 506 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,680 Believe me, Sam, 507 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,560 work is probably the thing keeping you in a straight line. 508 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Like a bike, you know? Stop and you come crashing down. 509 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Mmm. 510 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Maybe steer clear of the bike metaphors. 511 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,200 You ready? Let's roll, baby! 512 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,080 CHANTING: Justice for Marcus! Justice for Marcus! 513 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,920 SAM SIGHS Somebody's going to need to 514 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,160 explain prejudice to these guys. 515 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,680 We can see about going around the back. 516 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,600 Nah! Like I'm scared of this bunch of Pony Club wankers. 517 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Justice for Marcus! Justice for Marcus! 518 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,600 CHANTING CONTINUES 519 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040 That's him! Fuck off! 520 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,200 SHOUTING 521 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,960 Fuck off! 522 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,880 POLICE RADIO CHATTER 523 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,720 Over here! 524 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,840 Got something. Right. Two-three to control... 525 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,120 POLSA just found a bike pedal half-submerged in the ditch. 526 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,200 Ah, that's great! Much too early for any...? 527 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,760 Yeah, testing's going to take a little while, 528 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,280 but we have a record of the make, colour and year of Justin's vehicle, 529 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,880 which we'll test against any paint found on the pedal. 530 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720 Who's the defence solicitor? 531 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Sam Malik? Ha! 532 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,480 Yeah, you've dealt with him, then? Yeah, could've been a contender, 533 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880 but got stuck in the middle lane, sneering at the faster cars. 534 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,480 Still has a reputation for winning lost causes, apparently. 535 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Hmm! Found a minor disclosure issue and shafted us 536 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000 on a really terrible rape case. I suppose it's his job. 537 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Even with what we have already, 538 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,800 I think there'll be enough for a charge. 539 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,440 I'd like some forensics. That's the game-changer. 540 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,720 CHANTING: Killer cop! Killer cop! 541 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400 Killer cop! Killer cop! 542 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,840 Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! 543 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Killer cop! Killer cop! 544 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Did you see that...? 545 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800 ALL: Killer cop! Killer cop! 546 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,600 Killer! 547 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,320 Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! 548 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,000 Killer cop! Killer cop! 549 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! Killer cop! 550 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Killer cop! Killer cop! 551 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Morning, Lennie. Justin. Getting a bit tasty out there. 552 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520 Hi, Justin, thanks for dropping by. 553 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,640 I'm DI Southgate from Hampshire and the New Forest. 554 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,840 Call the Hug Academy, Lennie, one of their Cuddle Bears has escaped. 555 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640 Yeah, we'll just have to see how soft I am, I suppose. 556 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,320 Justin Mitchell, I'm arresting you on suspicion of causing 557 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,840 death by dangerous driving. You do not have to say anything, 558 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,840 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention... 559 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120 How's tricks, Leila? Yeah, good, thanks. 560 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,240 Are you sure this is your fight, Sam? 561 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,080 I wouldn't go near it with a bargepole. 562 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,840 You're the third person to tell me that. 563 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,280 Well, I think even somebody of your...talents 564 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,280 might struggle with this one. Oh! 565 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200 My talents! For muddying the water. 566 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Come on. It's my job to muddy the water! 567 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,120 And I'm sure a few violent sex offenders are very grateful to you. 568 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,680 Oh, bad news for the Woke Lawyers Society, 569 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,640 there's still a thing called due process. 570 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,320 Nobody uses "woke" any more, Sam, it's a very low-status insult. 571 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680 Lovely. Get that from Teen Vogue, did you? 572 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200 Get that from your mates in the manosphere, did you? 573 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,960 I demand to see the Chief Superintendent. 574 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,960 There was clear evidence of excessive force out there. 575 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Isn't that...? Felix Owusu, yeah. 576 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Clear evidence of criminal damage, too. Lucky the CPS is here 577 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,800 to witness it all. Excuse me, do you really think all this is helping? 578 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 There's a murderer in here. One of their own. No, no, no. 579 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,760 There's a SUSPECT in here, and you don't have all the facts. 580 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,400 We don't want facts. We want justice. 581 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560 Well, sadly, you can't have one without the other. 582 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,240 "We don't want all the facts"? 583 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,720 They're upset and angry, Sam. They have every right to be. 584 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,760 HE SCOFFS 585 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,040 HE SIGHS 586 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,200 Operation Wrath of God. 587 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,720 What? On your desk. 588 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,480 The little doll thingy. Ah. I knew I knew who it was. 589 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Yeah. Golda Meir. Mm. Yeah. 590 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,200 Operation Wrath of God. 591 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,560 I saw that film Munich with, um... 592 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Eric Bana. That's it. Mm. Yeah. 593 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,040 Do you like films? 594 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,560 I do. Yeah. 595 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,320 Munich was decent. 596 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,840 I like Spielberg so... 597 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,560 Although... 598 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,480 Crystal Skull... Nah. Shocker. No. 599 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Ugh... Come on. 600 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,720 It was stupid, weren't it? Yeah. 601 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,680 So, how come you've got her sitting on your desk, then? Given... 602 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,640 Given what? 603 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,240 Well... 604 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,840 An Israeli Prime Minister - 605 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200 I didn't think it would quite fit the Malik ancestry report. 606 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,720 It was a gift. 607 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,880 And who gave you that, then? 608 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,600 All right, well, let's, er... 609 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,680 ..let's start with the facts, as unfashionable as they are. 610 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Um, where were you at the time of the incident? 611 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,480 On a run. 612 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,200 Did you have your phone with you? 613 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,240 No. Why? 614 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,600 Er, I was in a hurry, Sam. 615 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,600 And...sometimes I just switch it off anyway. 616 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,640 Keep the noise out, you know? 617 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,760 Marcus Calderwood named you in his dying declaration. 618 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,080 Right. 619 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,480 Did you know him? I know OF him, obviously. 620 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,720 But did you meet? How did he know of you? 621 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,080 I attended his property once because of some issue with his neighbour. 622 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,720 What kind of issue? 623 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:29,920 Ah, I don't really recall, Sam. 624 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,560 Access road, noise nuisance...? 625 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,400 Anyway, words were exchanged. 626 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,920 About what? 627 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,640 Well, I'm not the number-one fan of Stop Climate Genocide. 628 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,400 Anything else? 629 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,480 He said I'd stopped him unreasonably on his bike. 630 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,840 And? And he was using his phone, so I told him not to. 631 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Why did you have such animosity towards him? 632 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,920 If there's a reason, I need to know it because they certainly will. 633 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480 There was this thing. 634 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,040 I attended a crash. 635 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,520 Car T-boned, went under a lorry. 636 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,400 SIREN BLARES 637 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,000 And? 638 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,920 I'm Justin. What's your name, love? 639 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,120 It's Daniella. 640 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,120 I feel really strange, Justin. 641 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,760 POLICE RADIO CHATTER 642 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,160 We're going to get you out of here. 643 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,920 I'm pregnant. 644 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,840 Nice. How many weeks? 645 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,560 Nearly halfway. 646 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,600 Is my baby all right? Oh, of course it is, course it is. 647 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,560 You after a boy or girl? Little girl. 648 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,320 Yeah? Yeah. 649 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,200 You got any names yet or...? 650 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,920 Pearl. Pearl. That's a lovely name, that. 651 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,360 Pearl. "Pretty as a pearl," my husband says. 652 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,240 Yeah, yeah. 653 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440 Oh. I'm so cold. 654 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,480 I'm really scared. OK. 655 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,320 Please help me. I feel so strange. 656 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560 Right, OK, Daniella. 657 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,760 I need you to relax, OK? 658 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,120 I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to stay with you, 659 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,600 until we get you out of here into a nice warm ambulance. 660 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880 OK. Yeah, you and little Pearl in there are going to be just fine. 661 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,440 Try and stay still for me. 662 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,560 Still as you can. I'm not going to die, am I? 663 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,240 No, course you're not going to die. 664 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,280 No, you're going to be absolutely fine. You're going to be OK. 665 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,000 Promise me. I promise you. I promise you, you're going to be OK. 666 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,520 Yeah? You've got to be OK. You've got baby Pearl to think of. 667 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,320 Yeah. Have you painted her room yet? 668 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Yeah. What colour? 669 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,280 SHE PANTS 670 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,600 Pink. Pink? That's a bit obvious, innit? 671 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080 I'll give you a hand if you want. I'll help you out. 672 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,360 Have you built the cot and all that? I'm dead good with flatpacks, me. 673 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,920 You're going to be fine. 674 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960 You're going to be fine. I don't want to die. 675 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,720 Stay with me, Daniella. Stay with me. 676 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,560 Stay here with me. I don't want to die. 677 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,800 You're not going to die. Can I hold your hand? Let me hold your hand. 678 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,840 Your hands are cold. Your little tiny hands are freezing. 679 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080 Stay with me. You're going to be absolutely OK. You're going 680 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,800 to be fine. You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine. 681 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,760 I need the ambulance, please. 682 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,960 Please, where's the ambulance? Stay with me, Daniella. 683 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,880 RADIO BEEPS 684 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,080 YELLING: Where's the fucking ambulance?! 685 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,920 Daniella, please, please, stay with me! 686 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,160 Stay with me! Stay with me, please. 687 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,760 RAIN POURS 688 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,280 I kept on telling her she was all right. 689 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,000 But she wasn't. 690 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,160 And Daniella died in front of me. 691 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,880 And there was no little Pearl. 692 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,560 HE SNIFFS 693 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,440 And what did that have to do with...? 694 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,240 Daniella should never have been on that road. 695 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,440 She was a very nervous driver. 696 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 She messed up her exit and then - pfft - done. 697 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,440 She was only on that road because of them. 698 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,280 They closed the M23. 699 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,960 And you... 700 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,880 ..you discussed that with him. He did this speech. 701 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,880 And I remember it word for word. 702 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,640 YELLING 703 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,560 I will not apologise 704 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,360 for the inconvenience caused to a privileged few! 705 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040 Privileged? Inconvenienced? 706 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,800 So, you know, with hindsight, 707 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,120 I acknowledge that I might have given him the impression 708 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,920 that I held him and his group in a less-than-favourable light. 709 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,640 But why did he identify YOU, Justin? 710 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,560 I don't know. I don't know. 711 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,280 And that's the truth. 712 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,120 Your anger over the accident gives them a motive, of course. 713 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,840 Along with about 99% of the population who hate it 714 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080 when they pull that shit. Right, erm... 715 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,840 The accident sounds bad. Did you get any support for it? 716 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,760 What kind of support? Emotional support. 717 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,440 PTSD... I haven't got PTSD. 718 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,160 How do you know? Same way I know I haven't got skin cancer. 719 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,720 Bit early to be talking mitigation, Sam. I didn't do it. OK. 720 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,400 OK. 721 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,360 Every cry-baby's got mental health these days. 722 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,920 What's actually wrong with being cheerful? 723 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520 Nothing. 724 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,680 Now every pop star's banging on about anxiety, on their Instagram. 725 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,400 "Me, me, me! I, I, I!" 726 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,360 You should fight it, not wear it like a badge of honour. 727 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,760 Strangely, I think you may have a point. 728 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,600 About fighting it, anyway. See? I knew we'd get along. 729 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,000 Honestly, I did. 730 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,160 But, yeah... 731 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,080 I was cut up about Daniella Fielding, massively. 732 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,760 I mean, that's kind of legit, though, 733 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200 when a pregnant woman dies right in front of you. 734 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,000 But I'm as sane as you, Sam. 735 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,600 Oh, well, that's a relief. 736 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,280 Er... Now, we haven't discussed a "no comment"? 737 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,880 I'm answering questions. 738 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560 But don't worry, I'm not going to be chitchatting 739 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,920 about Steven Spielberg or mental health. 740 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960 I think that's probably for the best. 741 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,240 Don't you worry. I've been in enough interviews 742 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,920 to know what really boils their piss. 743 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,400 HE CHUCKLES 744 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,760 Are you enjoying this? 745 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,000 Um... 746 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,320 It's just nice to see things from the other side, for a change. 747 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,080 PEN SCRATCHES 748 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,880 CHATTER 749 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,800 This is SCG Live... 750 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,280 We are at Romilly House, which was the home of Marcus Calderwood. 751 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960 He left it to the movement and we are now going to use it 752 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,800 as a centre for education and training of activists. 753 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160 You see my piece about Marcus for The Guardian? 754 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,800 Fake allies. 755 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,160 OK... Well, he also told me 756 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,360 about his fears of a split in the movement, Sara. 757 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,240 Yeah, yeah, there's a group that want to move 758 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,160 to more confrontational tactics. 759 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,720 Marcus was trying to hold it all together. 760 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,760 Mmm. Wait, that was the meeting he was on his way to? Mm. 761 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,120 Oh, just go away! 762 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640 Who's that? Marcus's neighbour. 763 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,440 He has an organic vineyard. 764 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,960 Er, he's banging on about the signs and us not having probate yet. 765 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,800 Total arsehole, apparently. 766 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880 Yeah, I think Marcus mentioned him. 767 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,680 But anyway, yeah, the split's definitely happening. 768 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,760 I mean, Marcus's death only accelerated that. 769 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560 Hey. 770 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,840 Come and look at this. 771 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080 Who's behind this blog? 772 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,360 It's anonymous and almost certainly encrypted. VPNs, etc. 773 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,240 Tribute in one of the broadsheets 774 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,440 says Marcus was going to call his new book Indifference Kills. 775 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,240 Decent title. Mm. 776 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,520 What are they saying about a vendetta? 777 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,800 That Marcus had made complaints about Mitchell 778 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,920 that had been ignored. 779 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,280 They're obviously getting their information from somewhere. 780 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,720 Fuck's sake. 781 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,640 I'll speak to Southgate about it. 782 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,920 They went in with Justin about half an hour ago. 783 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,360 They could still be hours. Ugh. 784 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,160 OK, well, we can talk in the morning. Thanks, Helen. 785 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:00,280 Sure. 786 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,280 So, where's your car, Justin? 787 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,680 Sandy's got it. Sandy being your partner, a Miss Sandra Vodanovic? 788 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,240 Yeah. That's right. Where is Sandy? 789 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,640 I don't know exactly. Do you know why she took the car? 790 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,680 Yeah. 791 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160 Why? To see a man about a dog. 792 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,080 Where? 793 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,680 About 40km outside Novi Sad. 794 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040 Novi Sad... That's in, um... 795 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,800 ..Serbia. Is that right? 796 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,200 That's right, Sam. 797 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,800 Right on the Danube, provincial capital of Vojvodina. 798 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,800 Took a bit of a pounding from NATO when the Serbs went into Kosovo. 799 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,400 So, she drove your car to Serbia? 800 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,800 Yeah. Why? 801 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,320 To see a man about a dog. 802 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,080 I'm asking why she drove to Serbia. 803 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,160 Well, she wants a dog. Why did she choose Serbia? 804 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,800 That's where the dog she wanted was. 805 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,360 Why was it special? Why did she drive? 806 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,840 Ah... 807 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,880 It was a mixture of Bichon and Havanese. 808 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640 She'd met the dog's mother and really liked her character. 809 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,000 She drove because only a few airlines allow dogs in the cabin 810 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,120 and she thought it would be cruel to put it in the hold. 811 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,880 Plus, the additional drive in-country, it made sense time-wise. 812 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560 As far as price goes, it works out pretty equal, and of course, 813 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,000 in the car you're more in control of your own schedule. 814 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,080 And Sandy really enjoys driving. 815 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,960 And it had nothing to do with removing evidence 816 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,040 from a vehicle that had just been in a collision? 817 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,360 Oh, no, it did. 818 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,080 Sorry? She was seeing a man about a dog 819 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,000 and removing evidence from a vehicle that had just been in a collision. 820 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,680 Yes. 821 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,680 Please elaborate, Justin. 822 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,800 Sure. 823 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,520 The dog is called Francisco, but she decided 824 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,000 it would be Pancho for short. 825 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,480 On the car. I was getting to that. Get to it, then. 826 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920 Whoa. Don't badger my client. 827 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,400 Sandy clipped the car in the gym, 828 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,120 when she was pulling out on Saturday. 829 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,080 Clipped it? Mm. 830 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,120 And she has an uncle who runs a car repair place in Slovenia, 831 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,560 so she'll probably get it fixed there on the way. 832 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,440 You want us to believe 833 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,720 that your partner took the car and drove all the way to Serbia, 834 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,440 to get a special dog. 835 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,840 Havanese Bichon. 836 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,400 The dad's Havanese and the mum's Bichon...I think. 837 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,080 Could be the other way round, actually. 838 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960 And she decided to kill two birds with one stone and get the damage 839 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,280 from a recent collision at the gym fixed by a kindly Slovenian uncle. 840 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,880 I never said he was kindly. 841 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,960 Hmm, try and avoid sarcasm, chaps. 842 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,880 It will only confuse matters, won't it? 843 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,120 Ivo's not all that kindly, as it goes, 844 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,520 but he is a good mechanic and it's mate's rates, so, yeah. 845 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,880 Any chance of a cuppa? 846 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,680 Pfft! Yeah, sure, Justin. 847 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,320 And then, maybe you can explain to me why Marcus Calderwood 848 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,800 stated it was your car that sent him flying off his bike. 849 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,160 Sorry, I can't explain that. 850 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,040 No, I bet. 851 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,360 And you'll need much more than a cock-and-bull story 852 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,400 about a special dog and a Serbian car mechanic. 853 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,480 Slovenian. 854 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,200 Uncle - Slovenian. Dog - Serbian. I'm not sure that I've wrote it... 855 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480 Mm-hm. That's right. OK. 856 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,600 At a guess, I'd say Sandy's probably 857 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,560 somewhere near Maribor right now, if that...if that helps. 858 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040 Interview terminated at 8.20pm. 859 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,360 We will renew in the morning. 860 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,080 Strange but true. 861 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,280 DOOR SLAMS 862 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,560 Mm. 863 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,600 I'll, uh, see you in the morning. 864 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,720 Yeah, sleep well. 865 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,800 So, yeah, she wants me to babysit. 866 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,360 I got us tickets to a gig, that weekend, remember. 867 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,440 The migrant benefit in Eastbourne? It's Ruben's band. 868 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,960 They need all the help they can get. 869 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,520 You know what she's like. Yeah. 870 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,760 A user. 871 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,840 Yeah, but also lonely and fucked up. 872 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,120 I was luckier when it came to dads. 873 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,720 Never trust a French Marxist philosopher. 874 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:06,840 HE CHUCKLES 875 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,720 I only really trust the French on bread. 876 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,800 Oh, yeah, they're strong on that, 877 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,760 especially when it comes to sandwiches. 878 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,680 Did you ask her about the money? No. 879 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960 How come she gets to go to Barcelona, 880 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,120 but she can never afford to pay her own bills on time? 881 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,960 Because that's just Tamara. 882 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,080 I don't know, is that a good reason? 883 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,560 It's always seemed like a pretty bad reason to me. 884 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,320 Maybe, but she's not going to change. 885 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,280 Definitely not while everyone always goes, "Oh, that's just Tamara." 886 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,920 Who are you texting? My favourite half-sister. 887 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,160 Saying what? 888 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,240 Saying I can't do it. You're right. 889 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,280 What excuse? No excuse. I don't need one. 890 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920 If you ask someone for a favour, you have to allow them to say no. 891 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,520 Oh, and you think Tamara will see it that way? 892 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,640 I don't care. Let's go to the gig. 893 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,360 We're all entitled to me-time, hmm? 894 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,960 How's it going, Justin? 895 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,080 Yeah, can't complain. 896 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,520 Dawn's on in the morning. 897 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,600 Says she'll bring you a proper breakfast from Mario's. 898 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,320 Oh, tell Dawn she's a star, 899 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600 and I will have the special breakfast roll 900 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,360 and a double espresso, just a little bit of milk in it. 901 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,680 Flat white. 902 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,760 It's not a flat white, Rebecca, cos there's nothing flat about theirs, 903 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,520 and they literally put a pint of milk in. 904 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,760 Would you like me to trim the fat 905 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,400 off your bacon, as well, my little prince? 906 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,120 Oh, you can trim the fat off my bacon any time, Bex. 907 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,600 Go on, ask me about the egg. 908 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,280 No, because you'll just make some rubbish joke about 909 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,320 "over easy, like your women". 910 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,760 How did you...? 911 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,040 You're a mind-reader, you! 912 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,760 HE SIGHS 913 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,880 What's happening with Nicky Taylor? 914 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,680 Uh, denying he heard anything. 915 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,480 But they took his phone. 916 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,840 Yeah, of course they did. 917 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,160 Everybody saw the Mermaid? 918 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,960 Yeah? 919 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,560 Good, cos they'll be all over the group chats. 920 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,600 Nicky never said anything to me, you know. 921 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,080 I know. 922 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:17,560 Now, don't go making a nuisance of yourself 923 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,360 or we'll have to do some police brutality. 924 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,040 Yeah, I'll try. 925 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,920 DOOR CLOSES, LOCK CLICKS 926 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,840 Here we go. HE LAUGHS 927 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,960 Is that your man? 928 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,400 IN HAMPSHIRE ACCENT: He's from the New Forest in Hampshire. 929 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,320 Come to save the day, Frodo. 930 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,280 LAUGHTER 931 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,320 Hey, you heard the latest on Sandra's alibi? 932 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,320 She went to Serbia to get a dog. 933 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,600 Oh, yeah, sure you did, Sandra! 934 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,400 She's a Serbian national, right? 935 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,680 Uh, yes, but she travelled on an EU passport. 936 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,400 Serbia isn't in the EU yet. 937 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,840 No, but her mother is Slovenian, and they are. 938 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,040 Thanks, Brexit. 939 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,000 Well, in this case, it wouldn't make too much difference because Slovenia 940 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,720 has national laws preventing the extradition of its own citizens. 941 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,080 We can still blame Brexit though, right? 942 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,200 Justin was just taking the mickey, basically. 943 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,560 Monosyllables, repetition, smartarse non sequiturs. 944 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,880 Attention-seeker. 945 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,200 If you weren't involved in a crime of this sort, 946 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,600 wouldn't you take it more seriously? 947 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,600 Well, yeah. Lawyer was a real pain, as well. 948 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,800 His wife killed herself. Jumped in front of a train. 949 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,920 Oh. 950 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,800 Oh, that's never good. 951 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,840 And terrible for the train driver. 952 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,920 Worse for the jumper. 953 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,480 Still, preferable to being married to Sam Malik though. 954 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,680 SHE INHALES SHARPLY 955 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,160 Too far. 956 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,240 We've got it! Marcus's complaint - there's headcam footage! 957 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,760 MARCUS: Why have you stopped me? 958 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,280 JUSTIN: I believe you are riding 959 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,640 in a careless and inconsiderate manner, 960 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480 contrary to the Road Traffic Act of 1988. 961 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,680 No, you just want to harass me. I was riding perfectly normally. 962 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,520 You were sending texts. 963 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,080 I'd pulled over to check my heart rate on my phone. 964 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,680 You were not fully stopped. 965 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,200 You should be looking at the road ahead 966 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,080 and aware of potential hazards. 967 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520 You wouldn't want to cause another fatal accident, would you? 968 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,720 I haven't caused any fatal accidents, 969 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,720 and you're on camera by the way, officer. 970 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,280 Oh, good. 971 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,520 Then there's record of my concern for your welfare, 972 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,480 as well as other road-users. 973 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080 I'd hate for a car to just smash into you one day. 974 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,680 Leave you slowly dying by the side of the road. 975 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,320 HE TAPS KEYS 976 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,680 JUSTIN, ON CLIP: I'd hate for a car to just smash into you one day. 977 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,080 Leave you slowly dying by the side of the road. 978 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,440 Good morning, Sam. 979 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,320 They've got new evidence they'll certainly be using 980 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,880 in the Magistrates' to secure the extension. 981 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,960 What is it? 982 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,440 A video encounter with Marcus 983 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,080 where you're literally threatening him with what actually happened. 984 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,800 You have been identified by the victim of a hit-and-run, 985 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,680 with whom you have a history of harassment. 986 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,320 Your vehicle has conveniently disappeared. 987 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,040 I'm not denying that we're the underdogs. 988 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,120 That's why I turned to you. 989 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,960 And that's all before Forensics come back 990 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,520 with a pedal that they've found at the scene. 991 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,240 So, Justin, hey, hey... 992 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,360 ..before we go to court, is there... 993 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,800 ..is there anything you want to tell me? 994 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,720 Is there anything I need to know? 995 00:55:59,770 --> 00:56:04,320 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0